Episode 22

Levelling the Field:  Charlie Francis and the legacy of the Dubin Inquiry.

Published on: 20th August, 2024

My guest in this episode is my very own spouse Alan Pratt, who in 1988 was the co-counsel with R. Roy McMurtry, former Attorney General of Ontario and future Chief Justice of Ontario, as the lawyer for sprint coach Charlie Francis at the Canadian Dubin Inquiry.  As the coach of Ben Johnson, whose world record time of 9.79 seconds in the 100 metre final (the same time of the top two finalists in 2024 in Paris!) and Olympic gold medal were erased due to a positive drug test, Charlie became the Inquiry’s key witness and chose to expose the role that performance enhancing substances played in world elite sports.  He argued to the inquiry that both health and fairness rationales for the steroid band needed to be carefully examined and argued that the elite sports world had become infused with hypocrisy.

Alan describes a man of great intelligence and encyclopedic knowledge and tells how Charlie gave up a lucrative career to coach underprivileged youths, often subsidizing them out of his own pocket before developing that group of athletes into a world leading team, eventually producing the greatest sprinter of the time, Ben Johnson.

Sadly, Charlie passed away in 2010 but his widow Angé has maintained the website charliefrancis.com, where among other things you can purchase his e-books Speed Trap, which details his life story and his reaction to the Seoul positive test, and the Charlie Francis Training System, written before the steroid controversy and demonstrates the depth and breadth of his knowledge of training.

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Empathetic Witness
Personal stories that will encourage and motivate listeners to thrive rather than survive
Season 1 of Empathetic Witness produced seventeen (17) episodes and was my debut into the podcast world. I found the process to be exciting and exhilarating. The podcasts satiated by curious nature, aided me in meeting and getting to know new people, and discovering new knowledge and information. Sharing is an important part of Indigenous Peoples ways of being and doing. I want to share the experience of discovery of new skills and the feeling of purpose and a reason to be and to wake up each day with podcast listeners.
 
Empathetic Witness wants you to challenge assumptions about Indigenous Peoples. It encourages Indigenous and non-Indigenous persons to embrace true reconciliation as we examine truths, explore reparations, and show up in the world willing to learn and accept the responsibility of reconciliation. Empathetic Witness addresses a whole array of topics encompassing the impact of the creation of residential schools, cultural genocide, the Indian Act, mental health, resilience, and survival. The end goal is to have every listener finish the podcast of the day with a sense of hope and optimism no matter how difficult the conversation.
 
Each podcast is an hour long. Listening can occur in a commute to and from work, a road trip, an hour set aside for self actualization, or even while preparing a meal.
 
All podcasts involve conversations with Indigenous people who share their experiences and honour each and everyone of us with their enthusiasm, presence, and wisdom.  
 
Season 2 has begun with the same enthusiasm and a new focus. The new focus will include generating more podcasts with a larger audience and an expansion of learnings.  
The initial 1st season had a vision of supporting Seventh Generation Indigenous Foundation and Training (GIFT) seventhgift.ca and its focus was trauma related.

The 2nd season will concentrate solely on Empathetic Witness and its journey. It will include less conversations on addictions and trauma and will concentrate more on triumph and resilience. Empathetic Witness guest will be inspirational First Nation community leaders who will share personal stories that will encourage and motivate listeners to thrive rather than survive. 
 
Future episodes will include interviews with a human rights activist from Lima Peru, an Indigenous Musician, a Dene language keeper, a political leader on economic development, exciting and motivating First Nations self-sufficiency narratives, and much more.
 
Grab a tea, listen and take part in the Empathetic Witness Podcast journey of discovery, excitement, and pride.  
 
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Angelina Pratt

I am Denesuline (Chipewyan), Buddhist, writer From Northern Alberta. I started my podcast to support seventhgift.ca (GIFT) Foundation. And, I started the podcast to inspire and showcase conversations from around the world that are important to humanity.